Geesh; I thought everyone knew about this, but evidently not Hugh, lol. We have a commercial unit that uses compressed air through a venturi to create the vacuum but Mi-T-Vac makes a unit that works with their hand vacuum pumps. Just a sealed jar with a port on one side for the pump and a port on the other which a hose which goes to the brake bleeder screw on the wheel cylinder or caliper fits on. The master cylinder still needs to be checked frequently and the easiest way to fill it is to get one of the nozzle and tube assemblies which GM (oops) supplies with their rear axle oil. It screws right on to the top of a bottle of many brands of brake fluid. So you fill the M/C, open the bleeder on the wheel furthest away, fit the bleeder hose to the bleeder, pump the Mi-T-Vac untill no air bubbles are seen (a small amount of air sometimes leaks past the bleeder threads), close the bleeder, repeat on remaining wheels, watching the M/C fluid level during operation. Ernie (proud owner of an operational 58 LeBaron Desperately in need of paint and interior So says his wife) -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hugh & Therese Sent: December 21, 2003 9:04 PM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: Brake bleed from wheels, not M/C Ooohh!!! I need to hear more about this! Ernie wrote: > The easiest way to bleed any brake system is with a vacuum bleeder > which pulls the fluid out at the wheels rather than forcing it through > from the master cylinder. I just finished my 58 brakes and have a > perfect pedal first time around. So, I get the plot but what kind of equipment is needed to do the job at the wheels and how do you keep the M/C replenished during the bleeding. As the eloquent request went in "Grease," 'Tell me more, tell me more!' Hugh